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courses:rg:2012:encouraging-consistent-translation [2012/10/17 11:43] dusek |
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The list of discussed topics follows the outline of the paper: | The list of discussed topics follows the outline of the paper: | ||
==== Sec. 2. Related Work ==== | ==== Sec. 2. Related Work ==== | ||
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**Differences from Carpuat 2009** | **Differences from Carpuat 2009** | ||
* It is different: the decoder just gets additional features, but the decision is up to it -- Carpuat 2009 just post-edits the outputs and substitutes the most likely variant everywhere | * It is different: the decoder just gets additional features, but the decision is up to it -- Carpuat 2009 just post-edits the outputs and substitutes the most likely variant everywhere | ||
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* The authors do not state their evidence clearly. | * The authors do not state their evidence clearly. | ||
* One sense is not the same as one translation | * One sense is not the same as one translation | ||
- | ==== Sec. 3. Exploratory analysis ==== | ||
+ | ==== Sec. 3. Exploratory analysis ==== | ||
**Hiero** | **Hiero** | ||
* The idea would most probably work the same in normal phrase-based SMT, but the authors use hierarchical phrase-based translation (Hiero) | * The idea would most probably work the same in normal phrase-based SMT, but the authors use hierarchical phrase-based translation (Hiero) | ||
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**Choice of features** | **Choice of features** | ||
- | * They define 3 features that are designed to be biased | + | * They define 3 features that are designed to be biased |
* If e.g. two variants are used 2 times each, they will have roughly the same score | * If e.g. two variants are used 2 times each, they will have roughly the same score | ||
* The BM25 function is a refined version of the [[http:// | * The BM25 function is a refined version of the [[http:// | ||
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* but rules are very similar, so we also need something less fine-grained | * but rules are very similar, so we also need something less fine-grained | ||
* C2 is a target-side feature, just counts the target side tokens (only the "most important" | * C2 is a target-side feature, just counts the target side tokens (only the "most important" | ||
- | * It may be compared to Language Model features, but is trained only on the target part of the bilingual | + | * It may be compared to Language Model features, but is trained only on the target part of the bilingual |
* C3 counts occurrences of source-target token pairs (and uses the "most important" | * C3 counts occurrences of source-target token pairs (and uses the "most important" | ||
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* They need two passes through the data | * They need two passes through the data | ||
* You need to have document segmentation | * You need to have document segmentation | ||
- | * Since the frequencies are trained on the training | + | * Since the frequencies are trained on the tuning |
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+ | ==== Sec. 5. Evaluation and Discussion ==== | ||
+ | **Choice of baseline** | ||
+ | * Baselines are quite nice and competitive, | ||
+ | * MIRA is very cutting-edge | ||
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+ | **Tuning the feature weights** | ||
+ | * For the 1st phase, " | ||
+ | * This is in order to speed up the experiment, they don't want to wait for MIRA twice. | ||
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+ | **The usage of two variants of the BLEU evaluation metric** | ||
+ | * The BLEU variants do not differ that much, only in Brevity Penalty for multiple references | ||
+ | * IBM BLEU uses the reference that is closest to the MT output (in terms of length), NIST BLEU uses the shortest one | ||
+ | * This was probably just due to some technical reasons, e.g. they had their optimization software designed for one metric and not the other | ||
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+ | **Performance** | ||
+ | * Adding any single feature improves the performance, | ||
+ | * "Most works in MT just achieve 1 BLEU point improvement, | ||
+ | * There are no significance tests !! | ||
+ | * Even 1.0 BLEU doesn' | ||
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+ | **Selection of the sentences for the analysis** | ||
+ | * They only select cases with bigger differences due to filtering -- this leads to skewed selection of sentences where BLEU changes more | ||
+ | * This can lead to an improvement in " | ||
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+ | **BLEU deficiency** | ||
+ | * The authors argue that some of the sentences are not worsened, but since the changed words do not appear in the reference, BLEU scoring hurts their system | ||
+ | * We believe this argument is misleading: | ||
+ | * The baseline has the same problem | ||
+ | * The human translators use different expression in the reference for a reason (even if the meaning is roughly the same, there can be style differences etc.) | ||
+ | * We must be careful when we criticize BLEU -- it is all too easy to find single sentences where it failed | ||
+ | * It's always better to back up our argument by human rankings | ||
+ | * Why didn't they run METEOR or other metric and left it for future work? | ||
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+ | ==== Sec. 6. Conclusions ==== | ||
+ | **Structural variation moderation** | ||
+ | * Sounds a bit sci-fi, but very interesting | ||
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+ | **Choice of discourse context** | ||
+ | * It's true that choosing just document works well for news articles, but not for most of the content we wish to translate | ||
+ | * Domain feature, topic modelling or word classes should be worth trying | ||
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+ | ===== Our conclusion ===== | ||
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+ | Nice paper with a very good idea that probably can improve translations, | ||
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+ | ===== Martin' | ||
+ | * The approach (without modifications) does not seem to be suitable for translating to a morphologically rich language. Different forms of the same lemma would be considered different senses (if not grouped together due to 1/2 of character being same), so the system would produce e.g. only nominatives. | ||
+ | * Also, there should be a modification for source-side words with more possible PoS. E.g. " |