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| Přivlastňovací musí zůstat samostatnou vlastností (nemůžeme ji slít se subpos), protože | Přivlastňovací musí zůstat samostatnou vlastností (nemůžeme ji slít se subpos), protože | ||
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| Prontype mostly encodes what we previously called definiteness. The definiteness feature would be retained. However, now it would be used only for definite/ | Prontype mostly encodes what we previously called definiteness. The definiteness feature would be retained. However, now it would be used only for definite/ | ||
| - | pos and subpos | + | ==== pos and subpos |
| * noun (personal pronouns, some demonstrative pronouns (alternating with adjectives)) | * noun (personal pronouns, some demonstrative pronouns (alternating with adjectives)) | ||
| * possessive adjective (possessive pronouns) | * possessive adjective (possessive pronouns) | ||
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| * other adverb (why) | * other adverb (why) | ||
| - | poss | + | ==== (pre)determiners ==== |
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| + | Now de-facto subposes of adjectives. Cannot collide with possessiveness; | ||
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| + | * det ... determiner | ||
| + | * pdt ... predeterminer | ||
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| + | ==== poss ==== | ||
| * Now de-facto subpos of adjectives (normal or referencing). | * Now de-facto subpos of adjectives (normal or referencing). | ||
| - | reflex | + | |
| + | ==== reflex | ||
| * Attribute of referencing (pronomial) nouns and adjectives. Means reflexive reference to itself. Does not apply to numerals and adverbs. Czech examples: sebe, se, sobě, si, sebou (personal), svůj (possessive), | * Attribute of referencing (pronomial) nouns and adjectives. Means reflexive reference to itself. Does not apply to numerals and adverbs. Czech examples: sebe, se, sobě, si, sebou (personal), svůj (possessive), | ||
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| + | ==== definiteness ==== | ||
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| + | Bulgarian seems to be the reason why we need to separate the lexical definiteness (or demonstrativeness) from the morphological one. Most Bulgarian nouns, adjectives and pronouns allow for suffixes (-at, -ta, -to, -te) that change the default indefinite word forms to definite ones. Even indefinite pronouns (lexical definiteness = indefinite) can distinguish the two states. Thus, we have lexically indefinite morphologically indefinite word forms (нещо, едно), and lexically indefinite morphologically definite word forms (едната, | ||
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| + | On the other hand, definiteness is not the same as demonstrativeness. Although I currently do not have an example of a demonstrative that is clearly morphologically indefinite, and although most demonstratives are semantically definite, there are demonstratives that describe the referee without necessarily having one particular (definite) in mind. Example: Czech demonstrative pronouns takový (such), týž, tentýž (same as). | ||
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| + | Since having two definitenesses creates room for confusion, we ought to set both in decoders of all " | ||
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| + | ==== numtype ==== | ||
| + | * < | ||
| + | * card ... cardinal numbers (most special of all; resemble adjectives; but might deserve their own pos class) | ||
| + | * digit ... arabic numbers, not words (special case of cardinals or ordinals) | ||
| + | * roman ... roman numbers, not words (special case of ordinals, very rarely cardinals) | ||
| + | * ord ... ordinal numbers (adjectives) | ||
| + | * mult ... multiplicative numbers (adverbs: kolikrát, pokolikáté) | ||
| + | * gen ... generic cardinals (kolikero) or adjectives (kolikerý) | ||
| + | * frac ... fractions (nouns: polovina, čtvrtina, sedmina) | ||
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| ==== prontype ==== | ==== prontype ==== | ||
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| * dem ... demonstrative pronoun (this, that) or adverb (here, there, now) | * dem ... demonstrative pronoun (this, that) or adverb (here, there, now) | ||
| * two to three levels of distance, similar to persons 1/2/3 (this/that, aqui/ | * two to three levels of distance, similar to persons 1/2/3 (this/that, aqui/ | ||
| - | * 0: distance neutral (?, to, takový, ten/onen, toho, tolik, ?, tehdy/ | + | * 0: distance neutral (?, to, takový, ten/onen, toho, tolik, ?, ?, ?, ?, tehdy/ |
| - | * 1: close to me (?, ?, takovýto/ | + | * 1: close to me (?, ?, takovýto/ |
| * 2: close to you | * 2: close to you | ||
| - | * 3: close to none of us (?, ?, ?, tamten, tamtoho, ?, tam, ?, ?) | + | * 3: close to none of us (?, ?, ?, tamten, tamtoho, ?, tam, tamodtud/ |
| + | * 4: distance neutral, same as something (?, ?, tentýž/ | ||
| * ind ... indefinite pronoun (somebody, something), selective adjective (některý), | * ind ... indefinite pronoun (somebody, something), selective adjective (některý), | ||
| * couple of levels of how many out of the total are included (few, a few, some, several, many) | * couple of levels of how many out of the total are included (few, a few, some, several, many) | ||
| - | * none: NEGATIVE PRONOUNS: no quantity (nikdo, nic, nijaký, žádný, ničí, nula, nikde, nikdy, nijak) | + | * none: NEGATIVE PRONOUNS: no quantity (nikdo, nic, nijaký, žádný, ničí, nula, nikde, odnikud, nikudy, nikam, nikdy, ?, ?, nijak) |
| - | * few: | + | * few: |
| - | * some: quantitatively neutral (někdo, něco, nějaký, některý, něčí, několik, někde, někdy, nějak) | + | * some: quantitatively neutral (někdo, něco, nějaký, některý, něčí, několik, někde, odněkud, někudy, někam, někdy, odněkdy, doněkdy, nějak) |
| - | * many: suggesting large quantity (leckdo, lecco, lecjaký, leckterý, lecčí, hodně/ | + | * many: suggesting large quantity (leckdo, lecco, lecjaký, leckterý, lecčí, hodně/ |
| - | * arb: any you pick (not necessarily all at once, although the distinction is fuzzy) (kdokoli, cokoli, jakýkoli, kterýkoli, číkoli, kolik si vzpomenete, kdekoli, kdykoli, jakkoli) | + | * any: |
| - | * all: | + | * all: |
| * col/tot ... collective/ | * col/tot ... collective/ | ||
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| * Není jisté, zda také hodnota //synpos// u číslovek vždy vyplývá ze //subpos//. Zatím u číslovek rozlišujeme obojí. | * Není jisté, zda také hodnota //synpos// u číslovek vždy vyplývá ze //subpos//. Zatím u číslovek rozlišujeme obojí. | ||
| + | ===== Zájmena a příslovce míry, resp. neurčité aj. číslovky ===== | ||
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| + | Portugalština: | ||
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| + | # (Indefinite) quantifier pronoun or adverb. | ||
| + | # independent pronouns: algo, tudo, nada | ||
| + | # independent relative pronouns: todo_o_que | ||
| + | # determiners (pronouns): algum, alguma, alguns, algumas, uns, umas, vários, várias, | ||
| + | # qualquer, pouco, poucos, muitos, mais, | ||
| + | # todo, todo_o, todos, todas, ambos, ambas | ||
| + | # adverbs: pouco, menos, muito, mais, mais_de, quase, tanto, mesmo, demais, bastante, suficiente, bem | ||
| + | # demonstrative adverbs: t~ao | ||
| + | # This is not the class of indefinite pronouns. This class contains pronouns and adverbs of quantity. | ||
| + | # The pronouns and adverbs in this class can be indefinite (algo), total (todo), negative (nada), demonstrative (tanto, tao), | ||
| + | # interrogative (quanto), relative (todo_o_que). Many are indefinite, but not all. | ||
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| + | Tohle celé by mohlo být zachyceno v nějakém rysu numtype (analogie k prontype), kde by bylo card, ord, mult atd. Přijde mi ale trochu divné označovat neurčité číslovky za kardinální čísla. Další možnost je advtype (popř. reftype), kde by bylo vedle loc, tim a man taky qnt (quantity). Problém s pojmenováním rysu tkví v tom, že v češtině máme druhové číslovky kolikerý apod., které moc nepoužíváme, | ||