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user:zeman:interset:brainstorming [2007/10/03 17:37]
zeman Definiteness. 		user:zeman:interset:brainstorming [2007/10/03 17:48]
zeman Jinak.
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 ==== reflex ==== ==== reflex ====
   * Attribute of referencing (pronomial) nouns and adjectives. Means reflexive reference to itself. Does not apply to numerals and adverbs. Czech examples: sebe, se, sobě, si, sebou (personal), svůj (possessive), sám (demonstrative - as in "sám velký šéf", not in "zůstal tam sám").   * Attribute of referencing (pronomial) nouns and adjectives. Means reflexive reference to itself. Does not apply to numerals and adverbs. Czech examples: sebe, se, sobě, si, sebou (personal), svůj (possessive), sám (demonstrative - as in "sám velký šéf", not in "zůstal tam sám").
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 Bulgarian seems to be the reason why we need to separate the lexical definiteness (or demonstrativeness) from the morphological one. Most Bulgarian nouns, adjectives and pronouns allow for suffixes (-at, -ta, -to, -te) that change the default indefinite word forms to definite ones. Even indefinite pronouns (lexical definiteness = indefinite) can distinguish the two states. Thus, we have lexically indefinite morphologically indefinite word forms (нещо, едно), and lexically indefinite morphologically definite word forms (едната, едното, едните, нещата). Bulgarian seems to be the reason why we need to separate the lexical definiteness (or demonstrativeness) from the morphological one. Most Bulgarian nouns, adjectives and pronouns allow for suffixes (-at, -ta, -to, -te) that change the default indefinite word forms to definite ones. Even indefinite pronouns (lexical definiteness = indefinite) can distinguish the two states. Thus, we have lexically indefinite morphologically indefinite word forms (нещо, едно), and lexically indefinite morphologically definite word forms (едната, едното, едните, нещата).
  
-Since having two definitnesses creates room for confusion, we ought to set both in decoders of all "normal" tag sets (i.e. in those where lexical definiteness always matches the morphological one).+On the other hand, definiteness is not the same as demonstrativeness. Although I currently do not have an example of a demonstrative that is clearly morphologically indefinite, and although most demonstratives are semantically definite, there are demonstratives that describe the referee without necessarily having one particular (definite) in mind. Example: Czech demonstrative pronouns takový (such), týž, tentýž (same as). 
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 +Since having two definitenesses creates room for confusion, we ought to set both in decoders of all "normal" tag sets (i.e. in those where lexical definiteness always matches the morphological one).
  
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   * gen ... generic cardinals (kolikero) or adjectives (kolikerý)   * gen ... generic cardinals (kolikero) or adjectives (kolikerý)
   * frac ... fractions (nouns: polovina, čtvrtina, sedmina)   * frac ... fractions (nouns: polovina, čtvrtina, sedmina)
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   * dem ... demonstrative pronoun (this, that) or adverb (here, there, now)   * dem ... demonstrative pronoun (this, that) or adverb (here, there, now)
     * two to three levels of distance, similar to persons 1/2/3 (this/that, aqui/ahi/alli). Na rozdíl od neurčitých zájmen neumíme rozlišit (v češtině) mezi odpovědí na jaký, který a čí. Resp. ještě lze říct, že "takový" je odpověď na "jaký", zatímco "tenhle" je odpověď na "který" a odpověď na čí by musela znít "tohohle", což ale není samostatné přivlastňovací zájmeno, nýbrž pouhý genitiv od "tenhle". Je otázka, zda mám vůbec rozlišovat úrovně vzdálenosti, protože pro časová příslovce bych zase musel rozlišit minulost, přítomnost a budoucnost.     * two to three levels of distance, similar to persons 1/2/3 (this/that, aqui/ahi/alli). Na rozdíl od neurčitých zájmen neumíme rozlišit (v češtině) mezi odpovědí na jaký, který a čí. Resp. ještě lze říct, že "takový" je odpověď na "jaký", zatímco "tenhle" je odpověď na "který" a odpověď na čí by musela znít "tohohle", což ale není samostatné přivlastňovací zájmeno, nýbrž pouhý genitiv od "tenhle". Je otázka, zda mám vůbec rozlišovat úrovně vzdálenosti, protože pro časová příslovce bych zase musel rozlišit minulost, přítomnost a budoucnost.
-      * 0: distance neutral (?, to, takový, ten/onen, toho, tolik, ?, ?, ?, ?, tehdy/předtím/teď/potom/pak, odtehdy/odteď, dotehdy/doteď, tak)+      * 0: distance neutral (?, to, takový, ten/onen, toho, tolik, ?, ?, ?, ?, tehdy/předtím/teď/potom/pak, odtehdy/odteď, dotehdy/doteď, tak/jinak)
       * 1: close to me (?, ?, takovýto/takovýhle, tento/tenhle, tohoto/tohohle, ?, tady, odtud/odsud, tudy, sem, ?, ?, ?, takto/takhle)       * 1: close to me (?, ?, takovýto/takovýhle, tento/tenhle, tohoto/tohohle, ?, tady, odtud/odsud, tudy, sem, ?, ?, ?, takto/takhle)
       * 2: close to you       * 2: close to you

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